Trying to get into a mind like Mr. Wilsons, I think this is code for: Silence is the best policy, we ought to deal with the matter internally, the heathen world is watching, and it beshmirches the Cause of Christ, Homeschooling and Patriarchy (not necessarily in that order of importance) for such matters to get a public airing, least of all in heathen courts; it would be far better if Mr. Phillips were rhetorically taken to the woodshed by some other leaders within the Patriarchal World, sent into exile for a year or two, then brought back contrite, refurbished and publicly endorsed by the same elders, where he could continue his great ministry, with all detractors, including Ms Torres-Manteufel, accused of bitterness, envy and slander if they refused to go quietly.. Just received news alerts that ops are ongoing this evening as I write this. Also, ultimate judgment was referencing final judgment by a court. Something else about this which I thought about yesterday but edited it out of my initial comments, and thats the appeal of following a controversialist.. Youre right. These type of men all operate the same way: egomaniacs with zero accountability who surround themselves with young, nave, yes men/women (I should know, used to be one!). The way I always heard the story was that eventually Christ will return as King and will establish a kingdom characterized by peace (the lion lying down with the lamb) and justice and such. . @ brad/futuristguy: Totally awesome. ^ The Barnhart Concise Dictionary of Etymology, as cited at The Grammarphobia Blog: Mash notes, March 16, 2007 But the plaintiff herself has apparently said that some of them were not unwanted, but that she went along with them in return for something. He has written or edited the following books (published by his own company Vision Forum): On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. One is a proven position, the other is what one comes in with. Phillips resigned as president of Vision Forum on October 30, 2013 after acknowledging a "lengthy relationship with a woman" which was "inappropriately affectionate and romantic." Given that, either his sexual attentions were entirely unwelcome, or they were not. Because of its dominantly patriarchal character, it was a relationship based on mutual affection and confidence. It goes to show, some people can often perceive the truth before full evidence is manifested. a fashionable man, a dandy, a fop @ Hester: I know you agree. I DO believe that the strength of a victims testimony can put a perp away for a long time. In debriefing my disastrous theological field education experience at seminary, the following question from my instructor has continued to be a valuable source for reflection on other destructive experiences: Was there anything in you that made you susceptible to how that leader used you?. The fact that he is much older, married, and her employer, for one. Its just sick how they can ignore or sweep under the rug all the heinous acts that have been committed by those in their crowd. I would have expected, but Sr. usually seems much more reasonable than other Neo-Calvinists. My Comment was Deleted Doug Wilson is a misogynistic moron. At that stage she was right to treat him as a heathen and a publician. Since the narrow application of texts say you should not take Christians to court, he put himself in the heathen and publician spot where he could be taken to court. The length and focus of this posting is beginning to feel way too self-centered. What happened? And talk about culture wars! Their book was endorsed by Dorothy Patterson around the time that the homemaking program was established at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Another interesting item. The lawsuit is brilliant. Wilson is some form of sociopath, for sure, but he does at least feel strongly and intensely over the moral virtues of loyalty (to him) and the power and wealth he is able to hand to his covenantal, biological, direct decedents.. . Things dont always turn out as one thought. Havoc and mayhem *inevitably* followed her. Based on the undisputed facts that have come out thus far, I have no doubt that if this were adjudicated properly, we would all see at the conclusion that Doug Phillips acted the part of a manipulative scoundrel. Together, they were a tabloid magnet. Theological views such as these were considered pass generations ago. There is a miasma of mean-spirited bitterness that hangs over the Kirk like a thunder cloud which emphasizes their election and our damnation. I completely agree with you, Hester. Soooo when I went to a very large conference, and none of the speakers had admitted to being someone who has lived through childhood sexual abuse, I just felt abused all over again. @ Marie2: Yes, I can see what youre saying about the logic consistency/boredom drop-out thing. It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, in these things which now have been announced to you through those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaventhings into which angels long to look. And, thankfully, the backlash to Wilson has been vehement and loud and sustained enough, particularly from his close neighbors in his small town who actually know enough about him, to all but neuter this old bull. Those patriarchal idiots and their wives do not have enough emotional intelligence in their bodies to understand such a nuance. I think if it were me, trying the case in the court of public opinion would hardly be satisfying anyway. It is correct that typically adults cannot recover money damages if they were participants in the conduct complained of and if they were competent. Phillips previously coached at Youngstown State as a graduate assistant in 1991 and 1992 for current YSU President Jim Tressel. I know this is hard to explain. And no, I have not loaded up to Go West, but about a century ago my father did live in Blackfoot, Idaho for a time, and there are some relatives (whom I have never met) scattered around there somewhere. Wilson and Driscoll can pack a room, they are indeed charismatic within a narrow subculture, but the type of people they attract are the exceptions that prove the rule. 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. She recently married Nolan Manteufel. If I recall correctly his website SurvivalBlog is the most visited survivalist site on the internet, at least according to him. It's only Doug's history that makes it all seem a bit weird. Wilsons snark is a corruption of humor like kitsch is a corruption of visual art. I have. Would that be the same American Redoubt that Christian survivalist James Wesley Rawles tells people to relocate to? Maybe he will, I pray he will for his sake, and for the sake of his scotomatous followers. Phillips, who has eight children with his wife Beall,wrote on the ministry website on Oct. 30 that he would step down as a ministry leader. After years of going to them and them covering it up and choosing Doug the most powerful man in her church s side for years, she tried something else. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. LawProf wrote: I have been trying to eat a cold bologna sandwich with pepper jack cheese and banana peppers for breakfast. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". But its NOT CONSENT, its SURVIVAL. Clever? It makes me sad to see Sproul Sr. endorsing this. When Passionate Housewives Desperate for God was published by Vision Forum, Doug Phillips wrote about Dorothy Patterson's endorsement on his blog (now defunct). But I would not stake out positions, as Wilson has done. All I could picture when that was announced was how congested the airspace would be around major cities at Christmastime. I think part of the dynamic of what drew/draws people to Doug Wilson is the *appearance* of erudition. One more thing to add to todays gratitude list, then, that you have not had extensive experience (in my case, perhaps 30+ years, depending on how I categorize a few experiences, now that I understand this kind of pathology) with BOTH the sick pastors, and the people who continue to follow them, even in the face of very twisted, screwy tendencies. Also, why are all the women pictured on that blog in situations other than church, even though the headcovering verses apply only to public worship?!?! Does Wilson realize that professional writers agree comedy is hard to pull off? I appreciate the early fights that were fought by the Amish and Christians like these to firmly and formerly establish what ought to be obvious the parents have the right to determine the course of education for their children, including teaching them at home. On November 17, 2014, Phillips was excommunicated from Boerne Christian Assembly, the church that he founded. The South Sudanese in the idiotic photo of Matt Chancey arent soldiers, they are policemen, according to their uniforms. Some of the best of the arts, philosophy literature, music, science used to be focused on Christianity or by Christians. ), http://geography.about.com/library/misc/blbordercanada.htm. The problem is, it is very very difficult to separate the raising of controversies in order to do apologetics in the public square, from being just plain contentious. Stollar, HA Community Coordinator. @ Hester: Anyone know if Doug Wilson is a proponent of ESS? But that says more about the person using the term than it does about the term itself. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. People who have never been through the bizarre, nasty hierarchy of Look at me!! In 2009, Phillips led "a team of scientists and investigators, including John D. Morris, president of the Institute for Creation Research" to the Galpagos Islands for the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin's life, and produced a documentary entitled The Mysterious Islands. It includes the following in reference to Doug Phillips: Key to Chanceys victory were the efforts of both his wife, who nominated him, and an entrepreneur named Doug Phillips, an important figure in the homeschooling movement, and his large family and network of supporters. In his resignation letter, Phillips sought forgiveness. Please keep digging. Just like Casey Anthony, I believe that Phillips is guilty and it is not based on reading one article in the Huffington Post. I understand that Phillips claims the sexual abuse never occurred. And some of the key destructive features in the Erudite faction are: an amoral base where knowledge is valued regardless of how it is obtained, contempt, dehumanization, no true value on all human life (sort of people-as-experiments), etc. Getting back to Doug Wilson, he got so much commentary under his Vice, Victims, and Vision Forum post that he wrote a follow-up article entitled: Vision Forum and a Season of Meditation. Married At First Sight's Jamie Otis and Doug Hehner are going through the motions as Jamie decided to share a very raw update about the status of her marriage. As Bessey notes, the low-budget indie . @ BeenThereDoneThat: Phillips denied the abuse charges, according to Julie Ingersoll, "calling them sensationalist and suggesting that they are motivated by a desire for financial gain.". ET. The behavior that she did not run from after the first incident was behavior on Phillips part that was high hypocrisy according to that same patriarchal world. Lived In Apple Valley CA, San Luis Obispo CA. In other words, he plans to do nothing he cannot get away with. And he has done everything he can to keep himself in that limelight. How to buy a Gospel Centered Ford Pinto ROFL!!! Does Wilson use this Redoubt term too? Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. @ brad/futuristguy: I read that link and thought it pretty bizarre! You can tell them all day long that God is love but if they do not see Jesus as a coming warrior and conqueror they will not follow him. At all. @ LawProf: The guy doesnt have a clue. I agree that this whole case, in a courtroom, could be interpreted as a girlfriend boyfriend thing gone wrong, and some claims could be seen as exaggerated. Add in his close association with the classical education wing of homeschooling and the image is complete. Which, it seems to me, indicates he has created a closed, authoritarian system that is not so different from the one he supposedly critiques in Vision Forum. But we ought to reserve the word for situations like it, and not use it in circumstances like this one. Thank you for the insights re: Doug Wilson and the Moscow community. Doug Phillips, the Home School Movement's leading Quiverful Patriarch resigned from Vision Forum Ministries, admitting a "lengthy inappropriate relationship" with a woman. For some reason people like to heap backhanded praise upon their enemies in this culture: I may disagree with X, he may be quite dangerous, but hes quite a [fill in praise here].. Here is a link to photos of a recent well-received international street art project (Inside Out) that just made me smile amidst the current dominant narrative about this place: http://www.insideoutproject.net/en/group-actions/yemen-sanaa-taiz-hadramawt. Could it be inerrancy? 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